Muhammad's Origins

[jmiller1942]

I know he has been accused of not being an Arab. But his mother is Jordanian, so he has legitimate claims.

[Boozer]

I can tell he's Arab... he looks mixed but he looks like he got some Arab in em

[sultanofdungeon]

Does it really matter where he from ??

[jmiller1942]

Well, it does when so many people are claiming he is a fake.

[sultanofdungeon]

jmiller1942 said:

Well, it does when so many people are claiming he is a fake.

It's all in the brain , you guys start this topic everywhere , on this forum , on shawn message board , then a couple of guys reply to your post and then you say so many people .

[jmiller1942]

I am not talking abut people on this board. Articles and news stories think he is not an Arab--that it is a fake story line.

[blownaway]

It doesn't matter if he is or not. He still agreed to do the story line. It disturbs me that they have the berries to make a story line like this in the midst of a war with people who look like him. He is not them and the people over there are not all like Hussain. We all need to realize that wrestling is just a man's soap opera, and yes, the moves are not all fake but are worked out prior, but should not be taken to heart to create true hate. That is why it is called "World Wrestling (Entertainment)". It saddens me that this world is only driven by hatred and pain instead of compassion and love. There is only ONE TRUTH and the Truth will set you free.

[pamjamma]

Umm, I'm just going to put in my two cents really quick. From what I understand of Hussan's gimmick, is that he is basically just arguing for the equal treatment of Arab Americans, albeit in a very radical way. I'm from Southern Missouri, and I honestly have to say that I don't care if he's Arab or not, though he does look it, because despite his claims to be so, someone needs to say something about it. I don't always agree with what he says, because I'm not a biggot, but there are people in my community who are.

It is really sad and disappointing that, after all these years, the majority of mankind still refuses to work out their problems in ways that don't result in death, destruction, and descrimination. I don't think there's anything wrong with the WWE putting the issue out there. It's true that the storylines are just that-stories, and should not be taken too seriously. However, I will admit, when a gimmick like Hussan's is put out for all to view and judge, the WWE has a way of coming on a bit strong.

None the less, being the critical thinker that I sometimes tend to be, I like to look into things a bit deeper. That, and also because of where I live, some-not all- of the things he says about descrimination and unfair treatment of Arab Americans rings true for me. Not because I am a biggot-I am not-but because, like it or not, there are a lot of people in this country who are.

As for Muhammad Hassan himself, that's not really his name and his character is just a gimmick. Because of that, I'm not going to pass judgement on the man himself. I seriously doubt that the opinions of his gimmick resemble his own. I think he's got a lot of potential. He's in great shape and he's not afraid of the mic. I think once he gets a little more comfortable in the ring and establishes himself as a major player, then he should go pretty far.

Pamjamma--Out

[sultanofdungeon]

To pam jamma , great post . ( I am not being sarcastic )

Bottom line is that Hassan is a muslim ( his name is spelled Hassan not Hussan ) that's why WWE gave him this gimmick of an Arab-American cuz Shawn is way to small for a gimmick which is so powerful .

Why everyone criticise WWE all the time , people's never criticise Hollywood for making movies like Need for Speed , Swordfish , Die Hard , Letha Weapon etc , these movies promote more violence then WWE .

And we have to accept the fact that hatred is in human nature, if we don't hate a humans , we hate an animal , if not an animal then food or may be something else so accept the fact and live with it instead of critisising earth and earthlings all the time .

PRO-WRESTLING RULES AND THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE . IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT THEN DON'T WATCH IT .

[reflectinganswering]

Thanks. I knew his name was spelled Hassan, I don't know why I didn't spell it right in my post 2 out 3 times...oh well.

I agree with you, that no one complains much about the violent messages most modern movies project. Although I guess you could put that into the "Violence in Movies or Violence on Tv" bs you hear about so often from the people with corks in their bum bums.

The WWE is not that bad and I don't think there's anything wrong with the Hassan storyline. I think it's a good storyline for the most part. I mean, it's really not too far off from the La Resistance stance. Of course, people are more touchy when it comes to 9/11, but what about the bombings over seas on the American Embassies, and the bombing on the USS Cole that took out 19 American soldiers. The United States has been terrorized long before 9/11, the only difference is that it happened on the homeland.

And when it did, I'm willing to be that more that 3/4's the US population did a double take when anyone resembling muslim heritage so much as glanced in their direction. And that's sad, because you don't have to be any certain race to be a terrorist. Just like you don't have to be any certain race to be a racist. I think this is what most of Hassan's gimmick is about.

He adresses the issue of racism, but at the same time his gimmick is a racist or at least, that's how it is perceived. That's what makes him a heel.

Whatever. I'm done. lol.
Pammi

[sultanofdungeon]

Why muslims are alwyas realted with word terrorism ?? There is a huge terrorist organisation in States itself called KKK which goes unchecked . I will never justify 9/11 attack but U.S. got what they did with others , U.S. troops are in Arab since cold war days and all they are doing is expoliting the resources of Arab . Ok Who is Osama ?? A man created by U.S. themselves to throw U.S.S.R from Afghanistan , they helped him , they used him to end U.S.S.R when it was all set and done , they dumped Osama too . Now all this man said was leave Arab and leave us alone and unfortunately he made U.S. govt angry and that's something you don't want .
Result=Osama declared no.1 enemy of not just U.S. just because he said leave my country and I guess there is nothing wrong with it. Anyways I guess I am not making any sense here bottom line is that U.S. is a racist country, they hate everyone except themselves ( But exceptions are everywhere , not everyone in U.S. is a racist ). I am sorry if I have offended anyone .

[pamjamma]

I wasn't trying to relate terrorism with muslims in my last post. I only used that nationality as an example in correlation with 9/11. I'm sorry if it came across that way, but that was not my intention.

As far as offending anyone goes, I don't see anything wrong with expressing your opinion. You're right about the KKK, and yes, our nation is home to more than it's fair share of racists. However, we aren't the only country that harbors racism, so I don't think you should single out the US.

That's it on this topic for me. It's much too tiring and far too hopeless for me to want to hash over it. Besides this is a forum for a wrestler, not politics and social issues.

It's been fun though,
Pamjamma

[ghandi44]

He's Italian..........

[rAj]

hey how do u know that he'z italian?

[ghandi44]

lets just way i know the family